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Misamane
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Where light messed up

Post by Misamane on Thu Jan 01, 2009 11:02 am

Through my eyes, light didn't mess up at the end with mello. Light messed up when he killed lind L. Taylor. He messed up because he accepted te challenge of a guy (L) Who knew nothing about who Kira was, how he killed, etc. If light had not taken the bait L threw him, He could have killed criminals ignoring everything L attempted to do to draw him out and He would have achieved his dream.

But this would make Death Note boring...

So, tell me where u think he messed up, k?

misamane ^.^

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Re: Where light messed up

Post by Ganku on Thu Jan 01, 2009 2:59 pm

light messed up when he thought he could fool aizawa. you can not fool the fro or whats left of one, and he learned that leasson the hard way.

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Re: Where light messed up

Post by Chib on Thu Jan 01, 2009 4:21 pm

He seriously screwed up when he forgot that Ryuk was doing it for the lulz the whole time.

Koian Sikame
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Re: Where light messed up

Post by Koian Sikame on Thu Jan 01, 2009 5:53 pm

There was alot of mistakes... Light just got lucky!

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Re: Where light messed up

Post by Kira on Thu Jan 01, 2009 6:12 pm

^ Yup. He was lucky he lived as long as he did.
He screwed up so many times..


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Re: Where light messed up

Post by Z on Thu Jan 01, 2009 6:35 pm

light messed up the second he picked up the death note... and decided to use it.. light tried doing a bad deed to do a good deed but in the end he became what he hated and died..

Koian Sikame
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Re: Where light messed up

Post by Koian Sikame on Thu Jan 01, 2009 7:01 pm

I laughed at his laugh i was like lulz what a dork!

Misamane
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Re: Where light messed up

Post by Misamane on Fri Jan 02, 2009 5:33 am

His laugh was really funny, lol...

Koian Sikame
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Re: Where light messed up

Post by Koian Sikame on Sun Jan 04, 2009 12:51 am

It was like a lulz MUAHAHHA laugh i dont know why...

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Re: Where light messed up

Post by Silver on Mon Jan 19, 2009 3:28 am

Light never really messed up throughout the whole series...he beat L in every sense of the world.

But if I had to chose, Id say he messed up at the point where he decided to sacrifice Rem. He was to intent on kill L of a heart attack, so that L would know it was Kira (therefor most likely light) instead of controlling someone else to do it.

He could have easily used Masuda or any one/all of the other members to kill L by controlling there time of deaths and using them to shoot L and Watri.

Rem was a very very very valuable asset. The most valuable asset in the series to Light was not Misa, But through Misa Rem. SO by proxy, Rem was the most valuble.

However, He just threw it away,because he most likely wanted to use Misa as a complete pawn without worrying about her death and by proxy his (when Rem told him that if he ever killed misa, she would kill him) life.

If he had a little bit more caring for not Misa specifically, but his whole operation, then he would have realized that killing Rem was a bad idea. However, he did not have that level of care for his operation at times (AT times he was a very carefully cautious judge weighing out the pros/cons and his gains and losses before making a move), he wanted to kill L ASAP (At other times he was a rabid dog killing whatever moves and willing to sacrifice anything to kill it) and he wanted take the short route to the top by sacrificing more then taking the long route to the top and keeping/developing assets more.

Personal Quote:

"Putting someones life on the line is completely different then throwing someones life away"

Unfortunately, Light decided to do the latter

His knowledge was only surpassed by his ego and his ego was only surpassed by his Hastiness witch eventually led to his downfall.


P.S: For all those saying he could have just ignored L, He couldn't have, he wanted to be looked at like a godly figure, a figure who can punish people at the whim of his finger (no pun intended) and it would be a fetal blow to his reputation if someone who has called out this godly being and challenged it would not be silenced. That would prove to the public that Kira is not a godlessly figure and sitll needs some basic perimeters to kill people.

That might lead people from fear of being punished and acting good because of it, to a witch hunt of this monster who has a demonic power to kill people.

It all depends on your image, and he was able to attain a god like image by killing teh illusive L, proving that there is no one he cannot kill.

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Re: Where light messed up

Post by Nightmare Zarkus on Mon Jan 19, 2009 5:04 pm

Silver wrote:He could have easily used Masuda or any one/all of the other members to kill L by controlling there time of deaths and using them to shoot L and Watri.

Unless he already had L's name (and the jury is still out on this one because the movies aren't canon), he wouldn't have been able to kill L. A better option for him, and the creator of DN said that he considered this, would be to have Light control whatsherface (the spy girl) to place cameras throughout the base. Even then, Light and Misa would have to act quickly before anyone could find the cameras.
Another option would've been for Light to let L do the 13-day test and then kill the chosen criminal, thus granting him like... immunity to any further investigation

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Re: Where light messed up

Post by Z on Tue Jan 20, 2009 2:45 pm

Silver wrote:Light never really messed up throughout the whole series...he beat L in every sense of the world.

But if I had to chose, Id say he messed up at the point where he decided to sacrifice Rem. He was to intent on kill L of a heart attack, so that L would know it was Kira (therefor most likely light) instead of controlling someone else to do it.

He could have easily used Masuda or any one/all of the other members to kill L by controlling there time of deaths and using them to shoot L and Watri.

Rem was a very very very valuable asset. The most valuable asset in the series to Light was not Misa, But through Misa Rem. SO by proxy, Rem was the most valuble.

However, He just threw it away,because he most likely wanted to use Misa as a complete pawn without worrying about her death and by proxy his (when Rem told him that if he ever killed misa, she would kill him) life.

If he had a little bit more caring for not Misa specifically, but his whole operation, then he would have realized that killing Rem was a bad idea. However, he did not have that level of care for his operation at times (AT times he was a very carefully cautious judge weighing out the pros/cons and his gains and losses before making a move), he wanted to kill L ASAP (At other times he was a rabid dog killing whatever moves and willing to sacrifice anything to kill it) and he wanted take the short route to the top by sacrificing more then taking the long route to the top and keeping/developing assets more.

Personal Quote:

"Putting someones life on the line is completely different then throwing someones life away"

Unfortunately, Light decided to do the latter

His knowledge was only surpassed by his ego and his ego was only surpassed by his Hastiness witch eventually led to his downfall.


P.S: For all those saying he could have just ignored L, He couldn't have, he wanted to be looked at like a godly figure, a figure who can punish people at the whim of his finger (no pun intended) and it would be a fetal blow to his reputation if someone who has called out this godly being and challenged it would not be silenced. That would prove to the public that Kira is not a godlessly figure and sitll needs some basic perimeters to kill people.

That might lead people from fear of being punished and acting good because of it, to a witch hunt of this monster who has a demonic power to kill people.

It all depends on your image, and he was able to attain a god like image by killing teh illusive L, proving that there is no one he cannot kill.
ya can,t control someone to kill someone else with the death note unless you write down that persons name and how they die.. so you,d have to write down the shooter and the shot ats name.. also i dont think rem was a very vauluable asset.. all she did was watch.. and give Misa the eyes.. thats all..

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Re: Where light messed up

Post by Silver on Fri Jan 23, 2009 8:19 pm

Oh yeah forgot about have to write the shooter and Person shot, cant believe Id over look something like that Shocked

Anyways, as for Rem, she was a very valuable asset, She was the only shinigami on earth and one of only 2 Shinigamis shown in the series that actually gave a shit about what happened to a human (teh first one being Jealous). The other Shinigami both in the Shini relm and the Earth Relm were only there either because there book got "accidentally dropped" and just wanted to have some fun by starting the train of chaos (Ryuks case) or just because there Book got stolen (Sidoh 's case)

Even in the Shini relm, you would see the Shinigamis playing cards to kill sometime and watching the chaos in the human world to laugh at it.

Rem(and jealous) were the only one who cared about any human what so ever.

As for Rems personality, lets compare it to Ryuks personality just to see how valuble Rem really was

Rem Informed Misa about all the rules and regulations of the death note thoroughly and actually gave jealous's Note book to Misa.

Ryuk just Kinda informed Light about the basics, and let him figure out the details himself.

Rem was on Misa's side, she was on earth only for the protection of Misa. Ryuk was on earth to have some fun.

Rem firmly stated She is on Misa's side while ryuk firmly state that he is on no side at all and was just there to observe/kill time

Rem Helped Misa in every way possible, including showing her who the Third Kira (that youtsuba guy I believe) was, even when Misa had no longer the Death Note in here possession.

Ryuk only told Light that he was followed by penber because Ruyk dident feel comfortable.

Rem Died For Misa

Ryuk killed Light




So as you can see, there are vast differences between Rem and Ruyk. Ryuk was just an observer while Rem was actively working to support Misa.

Now, having a Shinigami on your side with the ability to see everyone's name and life span, phase threw walls, not bee seen by anyone else but rems DN holder who also genuinely cares about you and has made protecting you the sole reason for there existence is much better then having a Shinighami who gives you as little information as possible, Distracts you on purpose (if there's nothing in it for him) and dose not give 2 Shits about you.

Thus we can conclude that Rem, was indeed a very, very valuable asset.

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Light's Fatal Mistake

Post by Embodiment_Of_Perfection on Sat Jan 24, 2009 1:31 am

Light makes a serious mistake in season two. He forgot that everyone is just human, and that all humans have limits. Light is amazing. He is capable of handling all the pressure placed on him by Near and his own task force. Every move he made was being analyzed. A single mistake would be the end of him, however, he never made a mistake. He flawlessly fooled everyone around him to the final moment, however, Mikami could not.

Every serious development made against Light by either L, Near, or Mello was because of a mistake made by someone else. Misa's incompetence in season one forces Light to be detained for over a month, and Mikami's inability to handle the pressure placed on him at the end reveals the existence of the real Death Note to Near.

Light never calculated human error into his plans or ideas. He failed because his expectations for his pawns were too high. He expected his dad to kill Mello with the Death Note and he expected Mikami not to make any unnecessary moves, but both of those expectations were wrong.

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Re: Where light messed up

Post by Yakumo on Sat Jan 24, 2009 3:03 am

Light messed up when he told Near at the end, "Well Near, it looks like you've lost."
Period. But he messed alot though.
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