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Are we conscious?

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Rei
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Are we conscious?

Post by Rei on Sat Feb 06, 2010 1:38 am

Think about it.

There's an article in The Economist that counters intuitive notions about consciousness. We are quickly accumulating evidence that consciousness may be a product of our behavior, rather than the determinant of behavior that we always assume it to be. So now turns out that the brain activity that drives a behavior is often well underway before the person ever has the experience of having a conscious thought.

So, an example. When we are in class in school. We decide to raise our hand in response to a teacher's question. Before we are ever aware of making that decision, our brain has already begun the neural processes necessary to lift our arm. Our brain is raising our hand before we make the conscious decision to raise our hand.

Obviously not true on the occasion. Like when we are insecure about the subject that the teacher is discussing and we struggle to find a correct answer. Still. Once we do find the right answer, we aren't thinking of raising our hand at the time, are we? It just comes natural.

All of this begs the question of if consciousness exists. If it does exist.. what exactly is it? We intuitively feel as though consciousness guides and determines our behavior. We decide to raise our hand, and then we do it. But do we intuitively feel that way simply because we want to believe that we work this way? Is it really possible that we form our conscious thoughts and decisions around the things that our brain has already done? It is seeming more and more likely that "conscious decisions" are simply decisions that our brain made which we then assume responsibility for. Do we really want the donut off the shelf at the store, or do we just talk ourselves into wanting it after our brain decides to buy it? What does it even mean to want something in the first place?

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Re: Are we conscious?

Post by Kira on Sun Feb 07, 2010 8:48 pm

I've considered this many times before, and I wish I could contribute something more to the discussion, but to be honest I have no idea about the whole thing. I really wish I knew more, it's just a very tricky subject to think about. I believe that the brain is responsible for everything, including your own reality and therefore your consciousness as well, but that's all about quantum reality...

Still, it's a lot to think about and I must wonder what will happen the day that humans discover all there is to know about the brain. I honestly don't think that's possible though.


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Re: Are we conscious?

Post by Omnis on Sun Feb 07, 2010 9:24 pm

I don't really have much to say in the matter, consciousness isn't all that big a deal, seeing as what happens just happens. "Cogito, ergo sum." As long as I'm here, consciousness is of no concern. That's my viewpoint, anyway.


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Re: Are we conscious?

Post by Il Sigmund on Sun Feb 07, 2010 11:02 pm

I can only wonder how I missed this when it was posted.

Such splendor we find in contemplating ourselves. Such joy and splendor indeed that this been a well cogitated concept for a great long time. To ask, “Are we conscious?” I find we must first ask, “What is consciousness?”
I’m probably the least qualified of any to give that explanation a try, but I would suggest thinking of it as a critic, watching you in arbitrary judgment of your actions, your reasoning, and your perceptions, even the perception of the aforementioned subjects. Your consciousness, your Jiminy Cricket of sorts, isn’t responsible for your impulses, if anything being impulsive and acting habitually inhibits your consciousnesses instructions; instructions that would otherwise seek to guide you from your morality and ethics.
As to whether or not your critic and your habits are derived as a result of an immanent empiricism, that’s somewhat more speculatory. Our habits, certainly they’re born from repetition, but what of our sense of self, our interpretations of our actions. Are we naturally good or evil or just a tabula rasa waiting to be written on?
I would like very much to think that humans are inherently good, with a sense of justice and redemptions. Regardless of whether or not that is the case, people are irrefutably prone to sin. It’s such a clichéd word these days, as are the commandments, now passed off as biblical trivia. But both all to accurate represent the motivations for the errors we make, the ones that bring us to ruin and the laws meant to safeguard them.
Our consciousness is a gift, beauteous beyond compare that allows us to not to think, nor to act, but to realize we are capable of both; to sit in reflection of ourselves.

“The mirror does not reflect evil, but creates it.”

With that in mind I pray you’ll tell me, what do you see in your mirror?
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